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All New Recommened Reading List for Non-BPs

Books for a Non-BPD

Books for a Non-BPD

I decided today to re-do my recommended reading list and use my Amazon store in its place. I felt it was getting kind of hard to maintain, and a bit stale. The new version has more good books on Borderline Personality Disorder, emotional skills and other such things. I arraigned it in categories now. Those categories are:

  • Best Non-BPD books (self-help and informational books)
  • Research on BPD (current and past research – mainly for therapists)
  • Emotional Skills books (I particularly like Ekman’s books)
  • Other books (Miscellaneous books on training, mindfulness and decision-making)
  • And, my new favorite:
  • ATSTP List Member Books (recommended by members of the ATSTP email list)

Check them out and enjoy. One feature I really like of Amazon’s is the provision of similar items and lists by other members of Amazon. While I might not recommend their suggestions, sometimes they are still quite helpful.

The great tree of behavior modification

Where are you on the tree?

Where are you on the tree?

When I talk to Nons, either in person or virtually, I find that they have the biggest problems with the behaviors of their loved ones with BPD. In When Hope is Not Enough, I outline a way to work on behavior modification and help the person with BPD change problem behaviors. The tool of reinforcement is number eight out of a tool of eleven tools. It rests on the foundation built through the application of other tools (mostly emotional ones) and attitudes presented in When Hope is Not Enough. In other words, behavior modification through reinforcement, which is usually called “shaping,” is not possible without first understanding, implementing and mastering the tools and attitudes presented before the eighth tool. That said, today I’d like to talk about another problem with using behavior modification techniques with someone with BPD: that problem is the scale at which many nons try to make the change. I have come up with a brief “model” that can help you figure out if you are operating at the right scale. This model uses a tree as a metaphor. The largest scale is presented first, with me gradually winnowing it down to the smallest and most effective scale.

In the sky:

  • She is selfish.
  • She is lazy.
  • She’s a chicken.
  • He’s a bully.
  • She’s a liar.
  • He’s too rigid.
  • He’s closed-minded.
  • She’s so dramatic.
  • She’s immature.
  • He always has to be right.


In the leaves:

  • Her up-bringing made her that way, so she can never change.
  • He doesn’t care about anyone.
  • She needs to be more rational and not freak out all the time.
  • She was spoiled by her dad.
  • She was abused.
  • He thinks he’s better than everyone else.
  • She doesn’t care about my feelings.

In the branches:

  • He lacks empathy.
  • She doesn’t know how to communicate.
  • He’s got to listen more.
  • She screws up all the time.
  • He doesn’t spend enough time with the kids.
  • He rages at me for nothing.
  • She needs to learn to cope.

On the trunk:

  • He needs to come home earlier.
  • She needs to learn how to do it herself.
  • He should be on time more.
  • She has to stop making so many commitments.
  • He has to be more polite to my friends.
  • She has to stop finishing things halfway through.
  • He has to be less critical of my family.


On the ground:

  • I’d like for him to spend Saturday afternoons with the kids.
  • I’d like for her to pay the phone bill.
  • I’d like for her to send a thank you note to my mother.
  • I’d like for him to say hello to my friend when she comes over.
  • I’d like for her to work on the kitchen project we agreed to do.
  • I’d like for him to arrive home at 6PM on Tuesdays.

What I have found is that many nons come to support forums with a basket full of problems at various scales along the tree. Some are character traits, some are psychological explanations, some are wide behavior patterns, etc. The problem with this approach is that a non can’t solve (or work with the BPD to solve) all the problems at once. Secondly, large, general problems are not solvable in a support forum. One has to solve, through behavior modification (and the use of the other tools in When Hope is Not Enough) specific problems with specific outcomes. Once you are at ground level, you can actually get something worked out, because if the specific positive behavior is observed, you can reinforce that specific behavior. That is the “one small step at a time” approach to behavioral change. It is the only one that actually works.

Prices Rising on my eBooks

All, because of the change in Google Checkout’s commission formula – I have to raise the price of my eBooks by $1.00. The cost of the eBook for When Hope is Not Enough: a how-to guide for living with and loving someone with Borderline Personality Disorder is now $7.00 (USD). The cost of But I Love You: a primer for understanding a loved one with Borderline Personality Disorder has risen to $5.00 (USD). The upside of this change is that now that Google Checkout has implemented digital-goods delivery, you can get your eBook moments after you order it!

Here are the new Google Checkout buttons for these two eBooks:

When Hope is Not Enough: a how-to guide for living with and loving someone with Borderline Personality Disorder ($7.00 USD)

But I Love You: a primer for understanding a loved one with Borderline Personality Disorder ($5.00 USD)

What is your goal for your relationship?

What is your goal?

What is your goal?

I have recently made a realization about the other Non-BP writers and myself. I realized that our goals are completely different. When reading other books about being a loved one of a person with Borderline Personality Disorder (mainly those written by lay people, as opposed to professionals), I have found that essentially we fall into three categories. These categories are:

Those that are chiefly concerned with stopping the emotional abuse doled out by the person with BPD. This category is the largest of the three. Most books written about being a loved one of someone with BPD fall into this category. These books include: “Tears and Healing”, “Stop Walking on Eggshells”, “The Essential Family Guide”, “The Siren’s Song”, “Loving and Loathing”, “One Way Ticket to Kansas” and others. Typically these are written by ex-spouses as guides to getting out of emotionally abusive situations and protecting oneself from emotional abuse. Most of these have an emphasis on boundaries or limits, tough love and abusive dynamics (such as the victim-rescuer-perpetrator triangle or Stockholm Syndrome). If your goal is to stop the abuse directed at you from your loved one with BPD, I believe reading these books can help you do that; however, I don’t think you should expect to keep the relationship and, if you do keep the relationship, I wouldn’t expect that it would grow to be a close, loving relationship. The tools and techniques in these books will not help you build such a relationship with someone with BPD.

Those that are written by people who have recovered from BPD and wish to promote a better understanding of the disorder. These books include those by Rachel Reiland, A.J. Mahari, Tami Green and others. I find these books to be helpful for the intended purpose. It certainly helps a loved one understand what it feels like to have the disorder. However, I also find that many of these books are short on what a loved one can do to build a loving relationship with a person with BPD. These books are inspirational for people who want to recover from BPD, but I don’t feel they provide the complete picture when it comes to the loved ones.

Those that promote an effective, skillful path to building a loving relationship with someone with BPD. As far as I can tell, I am the only “lay person” in this category. There are some professional books, such as “New Hope for BPD,” which attempt to achieve this goal, but no other first-hand experience books that I have found other than my two books, “When Hope is Not Enough” and “But I Love You”. If your goal is staying with your loved one with BPD and building a loving, compassionate relationship, I think I am your only choice.

I implore you to consider your goals and choose your path accordingly.

Nice Comment from Someone with BPD

The other day I received a nice comment from a woman with BPD.  She told me that she was planning on revealing to her long time significant other that she has been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). She said that she was planning on giving him 2 books – “When Hope is Not Enough” (my book) and “I Hate You Don’t Leave Me”. She was hoping that her SO will better understand her by reading these. Personally, I was flattered. To have my book used in that way makes me quite gratified.

Here is a quote from the end of her message to me:

Another thing that I really appreciated about your book is that it’s both empathetic for the person with BPD and for those around him (sorry, not buying your “her” pronoun ;-) ). I found it incredibly non-judgemental for a book about BPD. Generally, books on the subject either gloss over the distress that relatives of BPs may feel (because it’s not the subject) or are incredibly insensitive in their descriptions of BPs. I can’t begin to tell you how much I appreciated that your book was not describing me as some cold-blooded monster revealing in torturing others. I was, however, intrigued by the part in which you talk about poor self-esteem in BPs as a pathological trait (I don’t have your book with me right now, so I can’t quote you precisely on this one). There’s one thing about BPs that can’t be denied, they’re poor partner choices. So when I tell my bf something along the lines that he could have done better than me, I think it’s pretty much a realistic perception. I mean – if only a small part of what is written about BPs is true (and in this regard, your book is the cream of the crop of non-judgementalness) it would still be realistic from BPs to think of themselves as poor partners, if not as poor human beings.

So, that was about it. Congratulations for the good job.

As you can see by her kind words, here is someone with BPD feeling that “When Hope is Not Enough” is empathetic and non-judgmental which was exactly my intention when writing the book. If you have BPD and want a book to help explain to your loved ones… “When Hope is Not Enough” is an excellent choice. Although it is short, it is dense and packed with information. I’d have to say “But I Love You” which is my shorter guide for loved ones of people with BPD is probably not quite as empathetic and non-judgmental as “When Hope is Not Enough”.

Success and the Path to Effectiveness

Path to Effectiveness

Path to Effectiveness

Over the past two days on the ATSTP Google Group, I have been happy to see some success exhibited. Many people on the Internet and on Internet email supports lists for Non-BPs will tell you that there is no hope of having a relationship with someone with BPD. Often I have seen that the only “advice” given to Nons is: RUN AWAY! Even on the “staying” sites and sub-sites, many people think that it will never get better EVER – which to me is a form of black-and-white thinking that Nons engage in.

While hope may not be enough, the BP/Non-BP partner relationship is not without hope at all. This week I received two messages from the ATSTP Google Group that gave me some hope. One was from a long-time member of the group (he’s been a member for about 2 years) and it goes like this:

I truly consider myself still part of the ATSTP community even tho I’m less deeply immersed in it now. And the reason I’m less deeply immersed now… is because I’ve learned the lessons I needed to and moved on. If this is my alma mater… consider it mission accomplished in preparing me for “college” or even the “job field” of succeeding with a BP. I arrived at grade-school level. I’m now at high-school-grad level… I recognize you, Bon, at the college-masters-instructor level. And I’m so grateful, that you have been here for me! So, thank you… keep up the spectacular work! You benefit not only your family, but so many of us out here in the world! You have made THE DIFFERENCE, in my life! I thank you profusely, and ask that you keep me ‘in the loop’ in areas which I might be able to help in or find interest in. Thanks SO MUCH, Bon! Thank you ATSTP! You’ve helped me learn and grow SO much!

It’s wonderful to hear that someone has truly benefited from the sharing, caring and skills teaching that go on at ATSTP. One success story (out of so many failures on other boards) really warms my heart.

Now as for the other message that I received – this one is from a “newbie” to the list. She joined on May 8th and has read my book “When Hope is Not Enough”. She just started applying the skills with her husband. Here’s her message:

This s#$t really works. (sorry to use that word but I wanted to express my excitement!) I used some validating words (the ones I could remember at the moment) and helped my husband calm down twice this weekend. I liked the results and am looking forward to finishing “When Hope is Not Enough”

So, here we have on person that is near the end of the path toward effectiveness and one that is at the very beginning. I’m just gratified that the methods that are provided in “When Hope is Not Enough,” on this blog and, most importantly, in the ATSTP Group are actually helping people get a handle on their relationship with their loved one with BPD.

A new book from Bon

Today, I published a new book called “But I Love You: A Primer for Understanding a Loved One with Borderline Personality Disorder.” This book is a even quicker quick-start guide to BPD and being a Non-BP than my other book “When Hope is Not Enough.”

“When Hope is Not Enough” is 185 pages and packed with examples, conversations and frequently asked questions about BPD. “But I Love You” is only 50 pages and represents a distilling and reorganization of the material presented in “When Hope is Not Enough”. Basically, what happened was that one of my list members (of the ATSTP Google list) found that my first book was frustrating her. She has an adult daughter with BPD and found that she and her husband found the way in which I present a model of BPD in “When Hope…” was frustrating. The reason is that they wanted to know immediately about the behavior associated with BPD (such as lying, manipulation, running away, burning bridges, etc.) FIRST, rather than how I present it in “When Hope…” – where I present those symptoms LAST. I do that because I try and re-frame the Non’s understanding of BPD in “When Hope…” This approach just wasn’t working for the member of my list.

She decided to reorganize and summarize my work in “When Hope…” and did so without my prompting. She did so to help herself and her husband understand their adult daughter’s behaviors. So, she sent me a copy of her work and I edited it for accuracy, reformatted it and added some additional material that I didn’t put into “When Hope…”

The book is such a slim one (like I said 50 pages), that I don’t plan on selling it through Amazon or any other such retailer. Instead you can get either an electronic copy (for $4.00) or a printed copy ($9.95) from Lulu, which is who I use to self-publish my material. Soon, I will set up a google checkout for an electronic copy of this book, like I have with “When Hope is Not Enough” but first things first.

If you haven’t read “When Hope is Not Enough” and want a primer/orientation to how you can make your life calmer and easier with someone with BPD. You can try “But I Love You: a Primer for understanding a loved one with Borderline Personality Disorder” – and yes, it probably has a few typos, sorry. And yes, I’m sharing profits with the member.

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But I Love You

Why buy “When Hope is Not Enough”?

Why would you buy my book – over other more popular books like “Stop Walking on Eggshells” and Randi’s new book? The reason is that my book can have a bigger impact on your life than can the others. Why? Because my book focuses on a different aspect of BPD than does these other books. Sure, you could read “One Way Ticket to Kansas” or “Tears and Healing” but ultimately I ask you – what do you wish to do in your relationship? If you want to work it out, read my book. If you want to get divorced, read all those others. Read “Stop Walking on Eggshells” or “Tears and Healing” or “The Essential Guide to BPD” or “One Way Ticket to Kansas” and get divorced. Read my book and work it out.

WHINE and DBT Skills Compared

Occasionally, a discussion on my private email list that I feel it would be helpful to share here. I only do it if the discussion is not personal in nature. This discussion is about proper application of the skills in WHINE and how they compare to DBT skills. My list member’s question/comments are indented… my responses are not.

Now I have some time to answer these questions and the ones you ask in a later post. Let me start with these.

Thanks again Bon.  Now I am re-examining how best to communicate.  I
have a bunch of things I have been thinking about WHINE that I wanted
to ask you about:

WHINE is not perfect. It was my best effort at the time and continues to evolve. But I think I put in WHINE what was most effective for ME, as opposed to using DBT skills by rote. I had to adapt them beyond what I learned in DBT-FST class.

- You describe a modification of DEAR (using different words) as a
tool for the non.  Do you just see the rest of the acronym as not as
relevant for the non?

That’s a good question. Actually, I think the MAN part of the skill IS applicable to the non. Although it is intended to be a skill for BPs to use to have an effective conversation and ask for what they want. I believe the DEAR is the WHAT to do and the MAN is the HOW to do it.

M – mindfully (ignore distractions and stay on subject)
A – appear confident
N – negotiate

However, in the case of the non, I adapted the tool to make it about the non’s feelings, rather than about asking for what you want. What you are asking for in my version is for a behavior change that would improve your feelings. I think that what nons have to do is become more aware of emotions – both theirs and their BP’s – and become less dependent on rational argument. If you talk about desires in the communication, you might be likely to lean on rational arguments. I tried to craft the tool such that it would “meet in the middle” with a BP. You see, when you start such a conversation, your wife will immediately start to feel judged. She will fear that you are creating “boundaries” (really behavioral rules) for her and that HURTS her. If you make it about your feelings more so than her behavior, then she can’t argue with you – see below for more on that. She also finds that the conversation will not hurt as much. When you talk to her about something “important to you” she’s going to feel dread that you’re going to judge, reject and shame her.

- You discuss these modified DEAR tools in your “Inserting your
feelings” section, which is separate from your discussion of
“examining the consequences” and “facilitating problem-solving” (which
you include as parts of validation).  But I think each of these are
useful for communicating to a BPD beyond validation and attempting to
elicit behavior that you would prefer to see.

The examining the consequences and facilitating problem-solving is to encourage more effective future behavior in her. You do that when ineffective behavior has arisen as a result of an EDM. It should be done in a GIVE kind of way. “Gentle, Interested, Validating, Easy Manner”. That is the HOW. What I have provided is the WHAT to do. Inserting your feelings is a way of soliciting some sympathy/empathy from your BP – it is about YOU. The complex validation technique (steps 1-6) are about HER – IAAHF. Inserting your feelings is a way to make it IAABOYF (it’s all about both of your feelings). I think one must build trust with validation and, if possible, facilitate effective behavior in HER. Both skills are important, but they have different goals. Obviously, they can be used in conjunction (and I put a conversation in WHINE in which both skills are used).

- Also, the I-AM-MAD tool seems to be a summary of the validation
tool, and does not include the “inserting your feelings” tool (but it
does include “examining the consequences” and “facilitating problem-
solving”–am I right?

Yes, the I-AM-MAD tool is a sub-set/summary of the six step validation technique.

- You say that if we state “I feel ____”, then there is nothing for
the BP to argue with because this is a non-judgmental statement.  But
my wife consistently tells people what they should and should not
feel.  And I really expect that she’ll feel judged by this because she
thinks in terms of blame–she’ll assume I mean that it is her fault
that I feel that way.  Of course I can clarify, but my point is that I
will probably *have* to clarify.

Clarify by using normalization statements about your own feelings. I do state that you can’t be argued with and I still believe it. If I say “I feel angry” the only thing that can be argued with or thought to be judgmental is WHY I feel angry – the fact that I DO feel angry can’t be argued with – it is a statement of an internal feeling. She might expect blame and judgment – but that is why I broke the tool up into the different steps. People with BPD understand emotions. She will know how it feels to feel angry, sad, frustrated, scared, etc. Talking to a person with BPD on an emotional level is one that they will instinctively understand. One has to be careful not to have “weasel words” in your statements that indicate judgment. Even better is if you don’t actually judge the person at all, just state what happened. The “inserting your feelings” tool is like a reverse of the validation tool. It is to work on your feelings, not theirs.

- DEAR includes reinforcement–we can say that if they do change or
adopt the behavior, then there will be benefits (or negative
consequences, I suppose).  But you changed reinforcement to “thank you
if they choose to do what you want” and your example says, “this will
definitely make me feel less ____.”  I don’t really understand why my
wife would be motivated to change her behavior because of how I feel.
This is the last thing on her mind.

I disagree with that. I think that if your show appreciation for a commitment to change behavior that makes a BP think that they are being thoughtful and appreciative/appreciated. A person with BPD LIKES (desperately sometimes) to be liked, apprecaited and wanted. If you can navigate that tool without judgment, I suspect your wife will feel relieved that it wasn’t a dreadful statement of “thou shalt” from you to her. Also, I think “negative consequences” is not reinforcement – it is the threat of punishment. There is an implied positive consquence that you will feel better and thus treat her better – when someone is angry and frustrated they are unlikely to treat another person very well. The problem with real reinforcement at that moment is that reinforcement must occur when the desired behavior is performed (as I say in the reinforcement section) and your wife is not performing the behavior, just committing to perform it in the future.

A brief note about a new book

Recently, Randi Kreger published her new book “The Essential Family Guide to Borderline Personality Disorder.” I read it and have to give thanks to Randi for providing it to me gratis. Thanks Randi!

At the same time, I have a problem with this book. While it is MUCH better than “Stop Walking on Eggshells” (SWOE), her previous book about NON-BPs, I agree with her prescription about 40%. Her sections on “Communicating to be heard” and “Reinforcing right behavior” are agreeable, the rest is NOT agreeable to me. I will soon offer a true book review of this new book; however, I believe (humbly) that my book WHINE is a MUCH better book for understanding and dealing with a person with BPD than either SWOE or “The Essential Guide…” by Randi. While I know where she is coming from, she misses an essential thing about BPD – that thing is IAAHF (“it’s all about his/her feelings”), a concept in WHINE. She still seems to think that you can make it (at first) about YOUR feelings, which, with BPD, is impossible at first. This is both my opinion and the opinions of the members of my group. I am a bit miffed that  SWOE sold something like 300,00 copies and WHINE 300, because I think (as do my almost 400) group members that WHINE is a MUCH better book to understand the BPD/NON-BPD dynamic than either SWOE or “The Essential Family Guide…”

I know that Randi will see this via her Google alerts and I welcome her comments. I have no argument or disagreement with Randi. I respect her and feel she is contributing to the community the best she can. At that same time, I feel her publishing efforts fall short of what is effective in the NON-BP area.